tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post1527093567932211419..comments2024-03-11T13:16:19.098-04:00Comments on Ad Orientem: New Ukrainian Catholic Primate's First Priority... a PatriarchateUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-86094130958457859822011-03-29T17:19:50.453-04:002011-03-29T17:19:50.453-04:00Archer
In the ancient Church a Patriarch was the f...Archer<br />In the ancient Church a Patriarch was the first or senior most hierarch of a self governing church. That is still true in Orthodoxy. In the Roman communion the title has become subordinate to that of the Pope (once styled Patriarch of the West) and the titles must be conferred by the Holy See.John (Ad Orientem)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14329907942477160166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-80484997522717584752011-03-29T17:16:47.041-04:002011-03-29T17:16:47.041-04:00As JM noted this should not be a big issue. I thi...As JM noted this should not be a big issue. I think Moscow needs to get over it and chill. The UGCC is NOT Orthodox and we are NOT Catholic. That is not about to change. With that view in mind I don't really care what they call their local primate. And frankly it is none of our business.John (Ad Orientem)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14329907942477160166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-57492200958952036192011-03-29T16:51:29.369-04:002011-03-29T16:51:29.369-04:00I'm still surprised that the Vatican hasn'...I'm still surprised that the Vatican hasn't approved a change in status. It's not like unity talks with Moscow will be going anywhere anytime soon and they already have a Byzantine Rite patriarch on the territory of the Church of Antioch...Jon Marchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17906335382429497204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-52752309966234381452011-03-29T13:55:20.650-04:002011-03-29T13:55:20.650-04:00Archer, I can't tell tell if you're being ...Archer, I can't tell tell if you're being sarcastic or not but I believe in this instance it's the office of a Patriarch, which the UGCC lacks one. Despite that the previous two leaders of the church would informally be called Patriarch, Rome has not granted the major metropolitan such a title. Notice, however, that the Archbishop of Lviv has more authority and respect than the Patriarch of Venice, a Papal recognized title. My favourite suggestion is still from Fr. Robert Taft, SJ who suggested that the major metropolitan should just start signing his letters as Patriarch and send all letters back which don't acknowledge his office.mjlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07961183796915363873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-53832031115502977122011-03-29T13:10:10.213-04:002011-03-29T13:10:10.213-04:00What exactly is a Patriarchate? Is that what is di...What exactly is a Patriarchate? Is that what is diminutively referred to as a Uniate Church?The Archer of the Foresthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03075768526819990250noreply@blogger.com