tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post4324859221049916891..comments2024-03-11T13:16:19.098-04:00Comments on Ad Orientem: Keyboards at twenty pacesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-1981514225902294842010-06-16T19:05:13.256-04:002010-06-16T19:05:13.256-04:00"Sometimes perverted human sexuality is manif..."Sometimes perverted human sexuality is manifested in the form of the painful feeling of one's belonging to the opposite sex, resulting in an attempt to change one's sex (transsexuality). One's desire to refuse the sex that has been given him or her by the Creator can have pernicious consequences for one's further development. 'The change of sex' through hormonal impact and surgical operation has led in many cases not to the solution of psychological problems, but to their aggravation, causing a deep inner crisis. The Church cannot approve of such a 'rebellion against the Creator' and recognise as valid the artificially changed sexual affiliation. If 'a change of sex' happened in a person before his or her Baptism, he or she can be admitted to this Sacrament as any other sinner, but the Church will baptise him or her as belonging to his or her sex by birth. The ordination of such a person and his or her marriage in church are inadmissible. <br /><br />"Transsexuality should be distinguished from the wrong identification of the sex in one's infancy as a result of doctors' mistake caused by a pathological development of sexual characteristics. The surgical correction in this case is not a change of sex."<br /><br />-- Problems in Bioethics, Moscow PatriarchateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-38495785635946381592010-06-16T18:49:09.231-04:002010-06-16T18:49:09.231-04:00It is not just Stan's blog that is certain to ...It is not just Stan's blog that is certain to provoke misgivings and misunderstandings about the Faith, but his many posts in the guise of an "Orthodox Christian" in various internet fora trumpeting his surgical mutilation and hormone treatment as some sort of transformation into womanhood. In 2005 he even claimed to be engaged to be married.<br /><br />It is passing strange that Stan, the aspirational konvert to womanhood, should rant so against konvertsy. <br /><br />I am an convert who by the grace of God was received into THE Russian Orthodox Church. I am Russian Orthodox, and God willing, will become more and more Orthodox as my life goes on.<br /><br />Stan has mutilated himself and takes hormones, but as time goes on he will remain a self-mutilated man on female hormone pills.<br /><br />I can convert. We who have been received into the Orthodox Church can aspire to more and more conversion into the Life in Christ.<br /><br />Stan can aspire to be a woman, even an Orthodox Christian woman, but he will never be one.<br /><br />I think this unbridgeable gap between aspiration and reality is what drives Stan crazy. He is only taking out his frustration in the only way he can, i.e. I can't convert therefore YOU can't convert. Alas, misery does love company.<br /><br />Perhaps, if Stan is following this blog, he might take wisdom from an authoritative voice of his beloved Russian Orthodox Church:<br /><br />"As for transsaxuality, it was noticed and assessed from of old. Russian philosopher Rozanov described it as ‘physical sodomy’ and saw in it a physiological foundation for religious exaltation found both in heathenism and such religious sects as Flagellants and Eunuchs. <br /><br />"In ancient cultures it was transsexuality that to a considerable extent determined the emergence of such religious and mystical cults as worship of Moloch whose ‘priests’ cultivated the rite of castration. This rite can well be accounted for as a testimony to ‘insurmountable physiological and mental aversion’ of one’s own sex and castration as ‘triumph’ of deliverance from it."<br /><br />-- Irina Siluyanova, PhD., head of the biomedical department of the Russian State Medical University and deputy chair of the Church-Public Council for Bioethics at the Moscow PatriarchateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-92091920895672773292010-06-13T02:11:19.294-04:002010-06-13T02:11:19.294-04:00Anonymous,
Forgiveness is indeed important. But s...Anonymous,<br />Forgiveness is indeed important. But scripture is also clear about correcting those who are causing scandal. I harbor no grudge against she who must not be named, for any of her slanders directed at me. But she is posting scurrilous attacks on the honor and character of persons whom I hold in high regard. And for the reasons already noted, her blog has become a source of scandal in that it could create serious misgivings regarding the Orthodox Faith among inquirers.<br /><br />As for you rather venomous attack on Owen, do be specific in your complaints when calling someone demonic by name. You will note my complaints were fairly specific. Further, if you have disagreements with Owen's posts I would encourage you to address them on his blog, or start your own. It is generally regarded as bad form to attack someone in this rather backhanded manner using someone else's blog. Finally, please be so kind as to sign at least your first name when attacking someone's character. Failing to do so is likely only to cause others to question your own. <br /><br />In ICXC<br />JohnJohn (Ad Orientem)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14329907942477160166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-76415466416573194102010-06-13T01:24:23.900-04:002010-06-13T01:24:23.900-04:00Why is the only alternative not love, blessing and...Why is the only alternative not love, blessing and foregiveness? I misunderstood from your blog that you were Orthodox?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-72643916942295240282010-06-13T01:18:55.104-04:002010-06-13T01:18:55.104-04:00Vera/Stan is dismissible. Owen is not -he is mostl...Vera/Stan is dismissible. Owen is not -he is mostly right but nonetheless demonic and a far greater threat to the Church : after all his posture is a complete and abject repudiation of Christ. Vera makes me sad. Owen makes me sick. Where are the Christians in all this? Is the enemy of my enemy Christian thinking?<br /><br />I beg any reader for the sake of their souls to avoid either blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-7497731888552604092010-06-12T13:29:09.586-04:002010-06-12T13:29:09.586-04:00She must hit where it hurts, sometimes, or no?She must hit where it hurts, sometimes, or no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-41216516182299764152010-06-12T07:07:04.523-04:002010-06-12T07:07:04.523-04:00Oh, and I find it hilarious that Stan/Vara is now ...Oh, and I find it hilarious that Stan/Vara is now criticizing anyone who comments upon his "personal life" - that meaning criticisms of his sex reassignment. <br /><br />It might seem a little underhanded but I think it goes to Stan's credibility. Sex reassignment is a serious violation of God's law, mutilating one's own body to adhere to one's delusions. It also goes to personal identity: "Voices" is run by a man named Stan, not a woman named Vara, no matter how many times he harps on how he signs his (illegitimate) name to every posting.<br /><br />There's a certain level of irony of being accused of personal attacks by someone who cast aspersions on the dean of SVS by bashing his deceased father.ceejhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07111213814466370594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-34044810889400047992010-06-11T07:53:43.656-04:002010-06-11T07:53:43.656-04:00I think it is important not to let slander go unch...I think it is important not to let slander go unchallenged. Stan/Vara's website is crazy enough that most seasoned Orthodox can write it off, but what about new Orthodox and inquirers? He can't have made up all of his positive comments, and I've heard some of his unseemly remarks regurgitated by the undiscriminating.<br /><br />Rdr Michael: You make an excellent point. Actually, SVS could sue him for slander if they wanted to.ceejhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07111213814466370594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-87864744330508343942010-06-10T21:45:33.644-04:002010-06-10T21:45:33.644-04:00Owen, John, et al.
Your options in dealing with t...Owen, John, et al.<br /><br />Your options in dealing with the "Voices from Russia" are not as limited as you think. <br /><br />In Australia, a group of dissident Serbs ran a website called <b>Serbs in Sydney</b>, which ran posts and articles denouncing our diocesan bishop (His Grace +Irinej). The posts on that website were very much like Drezhlo's - slanderous, defamatory and full of para-moralistic, suggestive abuse. The Internet Service Provider, which hosted that website, took it down for "violations of terms of usage." I do not know if it was our bishop who complained, or someone else. The point is, that <b>Serbs in Sydney</b> is no more!<br /><br />I recommend that all of you who have been provably defamed by this blogger file a complaint with Wordpress, naming "Voices from Russia" as an abusive blog, and detailing the posts you find objectionable. I don't know what Wordpress' policy is, but you should at least ask Wordpress to issue a "cease and desist" type order concerning slanderous posts. I do think that Wordpress will ultimately delete blogs which they deem abusive.<br /><br />Please explore this. As you said in your post, this kind of reckless disregard for the truth and pathological behavior cannot simply be ignored, for all the reasons you state.<br /><br />Michael Martin<br />Reader (<i>Chtets</i>), Serbian Orthodox Church of King St. Milutin<br />Auckland, New ZealandReader Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-89557932661455819522010-06-10T21:06:04.374-04:002010-06-10T21:06:04.374-04:00One more thing -
Even in our silence our names b...One more thing - <br /><br />Even in our silence our names brought her attention. In the world run by the Great Mind behind Google, all she has to do is keep mentioning the names of Orthobloggers who get a fair amount of traffic in a lot of posts with a lot of links and she is going to increase her traffic, including traffic of inquirers who might think she represents a typical American Orthodox posture.Ochlophobist https://www.blogger.com/profile/13751003558600087713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-61183157912811049282010-06-10T21:02:07.443-04:002010-06-10T21:02:07.443-04:00funny,
Your instincts are the right ones here, we...funny,<br /><br />Your instincts are the right ones here, we all acknowledge that.<br /><br />We have been silently watching for over a year.<br /><br />Vera/Stan has routinely and maliciously maligned the names of John here at Ad Orientem, and Christopher Orr, and my godfather, and Gabriel for many months now. She has written many falsehoods about them.<br /><br />Orr, and John, and my godfather, and Gabriel are gentlemen each of whom I greatly respect and admire.<br /><br />I am not a gentlemen. Enough is enough.Ochlophobist https://www.blogger.com/profile/13751003558600087713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-5783804949409579872010-06-10T18:23:16.869-04:002010-06-10T18:23:16.869-04:00I think you are giving too much attention to someo...I think you are giving too much attention to someone who disparagingly refers to the EP as "Bart."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com