tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post4911101874501436844..comments2024-03-11T13:16:19.098-04:00Comments on Ad Orientem: Mass in San FranciscoUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-14872630917548938752007-10-17T22:39:00.000-04:002007-10-17T22:39:00.000-04:00I'm not the least bit surprised either. We don't h...I'm not the least bit surprised either. We don't have these things happen because we take our faith seriously and we're all on the same page: We don't change. Our position is intellectually honest. What good is having an "infallible all supreme" Bishop if the flock just ignores him anyway?<BR/><BR/>Athanasius, you're friend can keep waiting. It hasn't happened in 2,000 years and it isn't about to start.VSOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12400266818545081938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-29480825712593213382007-10-13T15:39:00.000-04:002007-10-13T15:39:00.000-04:00A frequent internet commentator of Byzantine Catho...A frequent internet commentator of Byzantine Catholic persuasion (I shall not name him, as I generally respect his insight) has often asserted that Orthodoxy is <BR/>"Anglicanism waiting to happen"--presumably because we do not have a Pope. Antics like those in San Francisco reveal why I find his assertion ludicrous. Any reasonable person, looking at the two churches, would have to say that the Romans have gone much farther down the road of Anglican silliness than have the Orthodox.John Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01309521171717472750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-55140593047053709212007-10-11T13:21:00.000-04:002007-10-11T13:21:00.000-04:00Chris Jones,You raise an interesting point. The ec...Chris Jones,<BR/>You raise an interesting point. The ecclesiological differences between us are also huge. On the one hand Latin bishops complain about the lack of collegiality from Rome, whilst on the other hand they refuse to police themselves. It sounds like they want an anything goes arrangement. And the evidence of the last 30+ years is that such is pretty much the way things have been. I think your comment and its implications vis a vis restoring communion with Rome deserves some serious thought.<BR/><BR/>ICXC<BR/>JohnJohn (Ad Orientem)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14329907942477160166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-71891813466264680212007-10-11T10:40:00.000-04:002007-10-11T10:40:00.000-04:00Forget the Pope in Rome. I will be most interested...<I>Forget the Pope in Rome. I will be most interested in any reaction from his fellow bishops here in America.</I><BR/><BR/>I share your disquiet (of course) about what this Archbishop has done. But we can't "forget the Pope" and concentrate on the reaction of his brother bishops in America. In the polity of the Roman Catholic Church, there is no Synod of bishops in the United States, there is no primate, and his brother bishops have no canonical responsibility or authority to hold the Archbishop accountable. Only the Pope has that canonical responsibility.<BR/><BR/>Any reaction the other American bishops might have would not be an instance of mutual accountability among bishops; it would only be political posturing. It would do nothing to address the situation. I should be very surprised if there is any reaction at all from any other American bishop.Chris Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03220498656377282715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-75496692194630012112007-10-11T06:41:00.000-04:002007-10-11T06:41:00.000-04:00Humm... It must be a sign of really bad times when...Humm... It must be a sign of really bad times when this doesn't surprise me. It upsets me, but I wouldn't say it surprises me.<BR/> -LandonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com