tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post6834409547109838718..comments2024-03-11T13:16:19.098-04:00Comments on Ad Orientem: Rod Drehere's thoughts on the Roy Moore debacleUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-60157740746764272372017-11-26T14:04:33.720-05:002017-11-26T14:04:33.720-05:00There is no evidence that Roy Moore is a pedophile...There is no evidence that Roy Moore is a pedophile beyond a tenuous allegation made after years of his very public life.<br /><br />"My take: Hold your nose and vote for the theocratic wingnut molester."<br /><br />Really, most Biblical patriarchs would meet the definition. They owned slaves as well.<br /><br />This topic is a little more complex than the current popular treatment.The Anti-Gnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386593803225823789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-17706359219228042432017-11-26T13:59:43.623-05:002017-11-26T13:59:43.623-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.The Anti-Gnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386593803225823789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-83640311500932319802017-11-21T21:42:53.222-05:002017-11-21T21:42:53.222-05:00Fine, fair to disagree. Of course, I’ve tended to ...Fine, fair to disagree. Of course, I’ve tended to hold with the Christianity that focused as much on the means as well ends, and as difficult as this is, and I may be mistaken here, I don't think this man represents a bona fide path for cementing change. To my mind, the central charge lies in changing the (now) long settled law of the land, and no matter how we feel about that law, this is what the facts are. We might do better to consider the Civil Rights movement as a better example - a long hard and bloody battle and not over to this day - but one ultimately that made some progress in changing attitudes long before it changed the law. Think how long and how carefully the search for a leader was undertaken by the NAACP and SCLA for the right person to get behind, and then take a long hard look at the man locals banned from the mall in order to protect their young women and ask whether he represents the culmination of a long search. By contrast, MLK Jr didn’t just happen and wasn't pulled out from a pack of ne'r do wells. Equally, a man of MLK's sort was necessary for the Civil Rights movement to succeed: he had courage, character and eloquence of a sort that certainly helped people forgive his flaws and listen to his message. Remember also how the Civil Rights protesters that came to my city of Washington came in their Sunday best with men in suits and ties and women in dresses, heels and white gloves... and let their opponents project ugliness upon them to a point that people could clearly see who was right and who was wrong. That may have been the last time! But do you really think the public’s mind, the Court of Public Opinion is going to be pulled into changing its collective mind by a man who misused his power and position to take advantage of young women to serve his licentious needs and then pose himself as another false champion of moral clarity, by posting the 10 commandments while explicitly breaking a few with respect to satisfying his lust? Really? If it didn't play into a sadly tired Elmer Gantry riff, it might be news. WashPost thinks so, but its not. Fact is that it is waaay old, and it's the same old same old that won't succeed in changing a single mind. Everyone wants a shortcut, and they want it for their guy, for their pet project, even for their good ideas and intentions. But repeat after me what we all know: "There are no short cuts. Ever." I don't think you mean to suggest Roy Moore will really be effective. Yes there's a first time, I guess we're now living in a country that isn't cautioned by experience. I scratch my head. Maybe I should give up because this is that sort of moment in time when the histrionics expended will far exceed the ability to accomplish anything. I think Divine Providence is intent on not allowing us to accomplish anything because He knows better the ill we would do. Do we really need another Pyrrhic victory? James the Thickheadedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11128470567186118742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-78829643803085802092017-11-21T21:02:56.135-05:002017-11-21T21:02:56.135-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.James the Thickheadedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11128470567186118742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-56899695671467560812017-11-21T11:00:47.459-05:002017-11-21T11:00:47.459-05:00What is the alternative? Electing someone who supp...What is the alternative? Electing someone who supports legalized prenatal infanticide? If someone can't bring themselves to vote at all, I can respect that. But voting for the Democrat is not a morally acceptable option.John (Ad Orientem)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14329907942477160166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-90728312113629950752017-11-20T23:23:06.123-05:002017-11-20T23:23:06.123-05:00So you're cynical conclusion ends up recommend...So you're cynical conclusion ends up recommending folks elect a pedophile? Someone else - the Senate - will do the right thing? "As if"? Ever hear of the millstone? Really? James the Thickheadedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11128470567186118742noreply@blogger.com