tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post3342907793750923407..comments2024-03-11T13:16:19.098-04:00Comments on Ad Orientem: Ash WednesdayUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-20793865895707579112012-02-23T09:39:05.914-05:002012-02-23T09:39:05.914-05:00Rubricarius,
Thanks for that. By the by, are you...Rubricarius,<br /><br />Thanks for that. By the by, are you Western Rite Orthodox?Ochlophobist https://www.blogger.com/profile/13751003558600087713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-20944001315829854982012-02-23T04:05:06.334-05:002012-02-23T04:05:06.334-05:00Ochlophobist,
The Caeremoniale - broadly equivale...Ochlophobist,<br /><br />The <i>Caeremoniale</i> - broadly equivalent to the Typicon - instructs that the Ashes be imposed on the head of penitents who bow before the bishop to receive them - so would not be imposed in their foreheads. A friend of mine Subdeacon Michael (Astley) wrote an interesting post about this issue on his <a href="http://morespaciousthantheheavens.blogspot.com/2010/02/ashes.html" rel="nofollow">blog</a> a couple of years ago. The practice of imposing on the forehead does not seem universal for the Roman rite either geographically or over time. My suspicion is that imposition on the forehead is a combination of liturgical minimalism and convenience.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-46987602038467985492012-02-22T18:03:07.755-05:002012-02-22T18:03:07.755-05:00Mr White,
It was a Roman Rite and it was at an e...Mr White, <br /><br />It was a Roman Rite and it was at an evening service at Santi Quattro Coronati. I was rather surprised by how that aspect of the mass was undertaken. I'm not at all sure when the tradition was changed, but I'd be curious to know all the same.mjlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07961183796915363873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-79738651737087259652012-02-22T17:01:42.131-05:002012-02-22T17:01:42.131-05:00I second the Joyous Lent to all "Western Chri...I second the Joyous Lent to all "Western Christians!" And for the rest of us Happy Maslenitsa!editorOrthodoxNorthwesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15802419271194848429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-52962922474001196262012-02-22T16:45:46.514-05:002012-02-22T16:45:46.514-05:00Mr. Lichens,
Was that Roman or Ambrosian Rite?Mr. Lichens, <br /><br />Was that Roman or Ambrosian Rite?Ochlophobist https://www.blogger.com/profile/13751003558600087713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-46958861885906195902012-02-22T16:40:39.999-05:002012-02-22T16:40:39.999-05:00When I was studying in Italy I attended an Ash Wed...When I was studying in Italy I attended an Ash Wednesday mass where the ashes were still sprinkled.mjlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07961183796915363873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-70273893649146198342012-02-22T14:11:50.869-05:002012-02-22T14:11:50.869-05:00Rubricarius -
Do you recommend any particular hi...Rubricarius - <br /><br />Do you recommend any particular history of the rite? I'd like to know more about the transition from sprinkling to forehead and the reasons for it. When did the change occur?Ochlophobist https://www.blogger.com/profile/13751003558600087713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-42359011730703707402012-02-22T14:10:59.870-05:002012-02-22T14:10:59.870-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ochlophobist https://www.blogger.com/profile/13751003558600087713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25740524.post-11010623384402411292012-02-22T13:45:11.761-05:002012-02-22T13:45:11.761-05:00Interesting that the image (from the St. Andrew...Interesting that the image (from the St. Andrew's Daily Missal?) has the bishop sprinkling ashes over the heads of penitents, the ancient praxis, rather than giving them on the forehead.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.com