Ad Orientem: 1950's? Nope... try 2011 in Ohio

Saturday, December 17, 2011

1950's? Nope... try 2011 in Ohio

Read the story here. This is simply disgusting.

HT: The Deacon's Bench

8 comments:

Anonymous said...: It's also disgusting that many so-called "followers of Christ" also embrace this sentiment. And they feel no shame when they are called out on it.

May Christ have mercy on us all,

Debbie; 12/17/2011 4:28 PM
LV said...: I'm old enough to remember these signs, growing up in Memphis in the 50's and 60's. Never thought I'd see one again. Lord, have mercy.; 12/17/2011 6:47 PM
sjgmore said...: Thing is, most people recognize this is awful.

I'm more put off by the huge numbers of people who regularly display this kind of attitude towards people like Muslims and Mexicans... and there's basically no stigma attached to their sentiments.; 12/18/2011 12:03 AM
John (Ad Orientem) said...: sjgmore
That's a very good point.; 12/18/2011 12:14 AM
The Anti-Gnostic said...: I'm more put off by the huge numbers of people who regularly display this kind of attitude towards people like Muslims and Mexicans

This is a very earnest and idealized point of view. Millions of Muslims and Mexicans have devoted substantial resources to getting away from other Muslims and Mexicans.; 12/18/2011 4:00 PM
sjgmore said...: This is a very earnest and idealized point of view. Millions of Muslims and Mexicans have devoted substantial resources to getting away from other Muslims and Mexicans.

I don't think I understand your point. But if it is what I think it is, it sounds rather analogous to suggesting that racism against black people would be justified because a lot of blacks "have devoted substantial resources" to getting out of heavily black urban ghettos.

America has a long, sordid history of racism, xenophobia, and other forms of collective hatred, and it's pretty much just a moving target. It used to be okay to hate blacks and Japanese and Catholics... now that those are stigmatized bigotries, Americans just hate different races, ethnicities, and religious groups.

I don't think I'm mistaken in pointing that out.; 12/18/2011 5:40 PM
The Anti-Gnostic said...: American history is no more sordid than anybody else's. Arabist Muslims brutally homogenized hundreds of diverse cultures.

All you have pointed out is the breach of a modern ideal. Realistically, there is a reason why so many blacks, Mexicans and Muslims vote with their feet against governance by their own in-group.; 12/18/2011 6:28 PM
Salaam said...: Of course, recognizing that racism is sinful is a good thing!

But I wonder, from an Orthodox point of view, is it the case that when we see such incidents, we tend towards self-righteousness? I don't know - I'm just asking. Or perhaps it forces us to search our on souls, which would be good.

I'm from Ethiopia, I've been to a few countries, and I believe that I've seen first hand what the church teaches, which is that all human beings have their various ways of missing the mark or sinning.

Racism or similar sins exist everywhere. Indeed, some of my best friends are racists!! And indeed as our church teaches, these sins are not any 'better' or 'worse' than others.

Also, I don't know if identifying sins with society as a whole or with a group of people is helpful. That is, I don't think that, for example, the labeling of white Americans as racist and advantaged and black Americans as victims as helped in America. I think it has led people to act and take responsibility for their actions less as individuals, and also to treat others less as individuals.; 12/19/2011 8:52 AM